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 Post subject: Copying files
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:44 pm 
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Howdy

I have filled up one of my hard drives on my NASlite Server. It is a 250 gig hard drive and I am trying to move the files to another NASlite Server drive in bulk. I select all the directories and copy and paste them to the other drive. It stops copying after about 20 or 30 gigs of copying. Is there a way to copy multipul directories all together or is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong.

Other than this issue.. Naslite has run sweet for years.


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:09 pm 
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Not sure if this will work for you ... but I would use the mirror feature. After it's finished you'll have a perfect copy and you can delete files on each of the two drives as desired, may be even leaving some copies of more critical files. The implementation of the mirror feature in NL is fast efficient and safe. Only problem is that you will need to start with an empty destination drive (or at minimum be aware that all existing content on the destination of the mirror will be wiped out). But then again, these days ... drives are cheap.
:) Georg


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:45 pm 
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I'm having a problem that may be related. I'm currently in the process of consolidating similar data on one drive that is for now scattered over several. These are basically a few folders containing a few dozens of files of about 500 MB to 1 GB. If I try to copy a whole folder from one drive to another, the server will stop responding after about 1.5 to 2 gigs copied. I hit the reboot button on my nasbox and it checks all the drives before becoming available again. But if I go inside the folder and select all the files and drag them all in one go to the destination drive, connection holds or at least seems to for the time being (process still going after about 7 gigs copied).

Is there something inherent to naslite that could explain this behaviour, and would an upgrade to latest version fix that?

Currently on 2.06.

On a side note, I recently purchased a gigabit nic and was trying to get it recognized as such by naslite, but after trying everything these forums had to offer in the way of possible solutions, I realised my router is *not* gigabit so am I right in assuming that is why I would not be able to have naslite's network status page see the gigabit card as one and give 10/100 status instead?


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:06 pm 
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The router (assuming that it is also the network switch that you are using) being 100Mbit will limit your traffic to that speed. If you get a gigabit switch and plug both the router, client computers and the NAS into it then the clients and NAS should be able to communicate at gigabit speed.


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:11 pm 
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Thanks. Yes I did indeed mean the switch from the modem/router/switch combined device that most homes are equipped with!


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:17 am 
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etien wrote:
I'm currently in the process of consolidating similar data on one drive that is for now scattered over several. These are basically a few folders, each containing a few dozens of files, each in turn about 500 MB to 1 GB in size. If I try to copy a whole folder from one drive to another, the server will stop responding after about 1.5 to 2 gigs copied. I hit the reboot button on my nasbox and it checks all the drives before becoming available again. But if I go inside the folder and select all the files and drag them all in one go to the destination drive, connection holds or at least seems to for the time being (process still going after about 7 gigs copied).


This was copying over the lan, connected to the NAS in NFS. I have since discovered you could copy between drives when all drives mounted as 1 share via SMB.

This is much faster, but I'm hitting a limit of about 3.5 GB where the server stops responding, is still copying but extremely slowly. I am not too worried about this as I've not applied the usual frst aid tricks yet (like disabling all unused functions in the BIOS, which I can't do at the moment due to having let my brother borrow my monitor!)

The second problem, somewhat related to the one I had before when copying over the lan, is that I simply cannot copy a whole folder from drive to drive. I get the following error:

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And that doesn't seem to have anything to do with size, as the folder I got the above error for was about 1GB.

AM I right in assuming it is MacOS (I use the latest Leopard) doing this instead of NASLite (I use 2.06)?


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:49 pm 
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I am sorry but I am not sure what you mean by SMB. How do I set up SMB on a windows xp machine?


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:20 am 
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No need to set it up ... WinXp is SMB by default.


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:26 am 
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Okay after a long time of being very statisfied with Naslite.. I seem to have come to a big show stopper issue. I cannot copy a complete directory and all of its files and folders (115 gigs) from one drive to another. If I want to spend a couple of days and manually move the all the sub folders I am sure I can get the files copied over.. but I should be able to copy it... shouldn't I? Any ideas?

I do have a program installed so I can read linux drives attached to my windows machine but I would rather not have to install a couple of Naslite drives into my desktop just so I can do a large file transfer.

Any help would be appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:47 pm 
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nlry ("nasliterocksya" ?) ...

I think I have done what you are trying to do (many months ago and after having a mirror backup of both source and destination drive). May be not 115GB at a time ... but definitely more than 40 or 60 GB ... with fewer files (each file large by itself) all in one or two subfolders. I had no trouble with this ... and I don't think it's NASLite, in particular if you're still using one of the older versions ( I have not yet upgraded; still using 2.06 ).

Could be hardware has degraded (NIC, RAM). Or a problem at the client end (are you using WinXP ?). One particular problem I've run into somewhere over the past 6 months is a Microsoft Windows Update which disabled my TaskScheduler Wake-On-Lan routines (solution: I had to use a restore operation -- and I now have the automated updates turned off -- I don't remember the specific update that caused the issue). And I have suspicions that other WinUpdates (under the guise of "improvements") have messed with functionality, in particular Mircosoft .NET Framework components and/or behaviour of network drives. If you have the inclination, resources and time to debug this you might consider using a spare PC with a fresh WinXP install (and no updates). (Moving the drives to the linux-accessible PC is a workaround, but cumbersome too ... and I personally don't trust those programs with critical data. Hopefully you won't end up with file ownership/permissions issues. )

Beyond above comments ... Tony/Ralph hopefully can chime in.

Edit: Are you using local NL move (within the "shares") or across the network copy ?


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:44 pm 
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I am now trying from other computer to see if that makes a difference.... if it does not work.. I had another idea... boot us the NASlite box with Linux from a cd and copy the files ....

Good idea.. bad idea???

Also if I wanted to try the mirror funtion of NAS ... does it have to be to a drive of the same size?

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:14 pm 
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Yes, LiveLinux CD might be ok. I am not sure about permissions and ownership, and -- if you use a simple "cp" command -- whether they are preserved for each file or take on id and mask of the current user because the NL user/group-id's may be unknown when booting LiveLinux (a Linux/NASLite guru would need to chime in here). I like "tar" and using a pipe, but if you're unfamiliar ... that could cause more trouble than it's worth.

Mirroring: destination drive can be a different (even smaller) size, but must be at able to hold the entire source drive's contents. Remember that potentially ALL FILES ARE WIPED OUT on destination drive before all files from source drive are copied or synchronized to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Copying files
PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:22 am 
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I tried with another computer same issue...
I also deleted some files off the drive I was copying from as it was totally full. Still cant get it to copy. I may try going the mirroring route...unless anyone has any other ideas.

thanks again for your help


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