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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:17 pm 
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Hello everyone!

I set up a NasLite+ server just two days ago. I can connect to the server from my Mac (10.4 - 'Tiger') using ftp:// and http://, but cannot using nfs:// or smb://.

When attempting to connect w/ smb it is asking for a username and password and nothing I supply works. When attempting using nfs, it just says wrong username or password.

I have tried the Tiger fix using the "minauth=none" fix, but it has not helped.

I did connect to the serves successfully when I first set it up using nfs, and successfully transfered a good 20g of files overnight. However the next day I could not connect. (I think it was after I restarted the server).

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

Please help!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:17 pm 
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The minauth fix worked for me on Tiger. Apple are bringing out the 10.4.3 update soon so with any luck this will fix the problem. Nothing else I can think to try I'm afraid.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:05 pm 
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I am having this exact same problem and I am using Tiger 10.4., so I am guessing that Apple hasn't yet solved this problem. If anyone could give me some help with this it would be greatly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:24 am 
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How are you connecting to the NASLite?
I found that if I try to connect to the NASLite+ using the following (command-K in finder not browsing) smb://192.168.0.15/export/Disk-1 or
smb://NASLite/export/Disk-1 this will ask me for a password which I can't answer. So it fails to login.
If I go smb://192.168.0.15 it will show me the disks I can connect I then select Disk-1 (or what ever disk you want) then it ask me for a password, which I don't have to put anything into. Then the disks mounts.
Didn't have a problem connecting via NFS except it was very very very very slow coping to the NASLite, didn't matter what version of MacOSX I tried.
SMB is crap with its filename limitations but the speed is good.
FreeNAS is thinking adding AFP in a future version, but don't know how far that is away.
Nothing beats using AFP V3.x on OSX networks.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:34 am 
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I originally was trying SMB because I heard NFS was really slow. Nothing I tried was successful.

smb://192.168.0.254
smb://192.168.0.254/export/Disk-1
smb://NASLite

Any combination that I could think of wouldn't work for me. I don't even get anything asking which disk I want to connect to it just goes straight to the password screen no matter what.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:23 pm 
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For smb, connect smb://192.168.1.1/ with no share information, the dialog box will prompt you for the share.

For nfs, use nfs://192.168.1.1/export/Disk-1 you'll need the share info


Editing the nsmb.conf file works fine, I've been using NASLite v1 on my G4/Tiger with no problem.

As far as poor NFS speeds, I think Glo8al posted he was getting 700ks on NFS, my opinion is you have an IRQ conflict somewhere. I've seen those speeds with SATA cards while testing NL2 due to IRQ conflicts, turn everything off, parallel port, gameport etc that is not needed.

Here's a benchmark on NFS and SAMBA using diskwriggler.

This is from my G4 to one of the NL2 test boxes.


./diskWriggler -2K -t -n 300 -o /Volumes/192.168.1.1

NFS :

Read Summary : 300.00 frames in 374.25 secs
: 0.64(min) 0.80(avg) 0.84(max) FPS
: 7.81(min) 9.74(avg) 10.16(max) MB/s


Write Summary : 300.00 frames in 476.57 secs
: 0.40(min) 0.63(avg) 0.67(max) FPS
: 4.84(min) 7.65(avg) 8.15(max) MB/s


SAMBA:

Read Summary : 300.00 frames in 393.81 secs
: 0.64(min) 0.76(avg) 0.79(max) FPS
: 7.78(min) 9.26(avg) 9.55(max) MB/s


Write Summary : 300.00 frames in 417.77 secs
: 0.17(min) 0.72(avg) 0.76(max) FPS
: 2.02(min) 8.73(avg) 9.22(max) MB/s


Here's diskwriggler from my G4 to my Powerbook using AFS

AFS:
Read Summary : 300.00 frames in 430.27 secs
: 0.52(min) 0.70(avg) 0.77(max) FPS
: 6.31(min) 8.48(avg) 9.39(max) MB/s



Write Summary : 300.00 frames in 414.65 secs
: 0.62(min) 0.72(avg) 0.78(max) FPS
: 7.49(min) 8.80(avg) 9.54(max) MB/s


As you can see, NFS had the fastest read speed, and AFS barely beat Samba in write speed 414.65s secs to 417 secs


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:27 pm 
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Oh, forgot to add, if you have the nsmb.conf fix installed, just hit return at the password dialog, doesn't matter what you send to naslite.


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 Post subject: Don't Know
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:10 pm 
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I don't know what the problem with my setup is. I tried what you said and I can only get the shares to mount using NFS which is still really slow. Do I turn all of those things off in my NAS box's BIOS? I don't think the sign-in problem have to do with my Mac because I have tried to connect to my NASLite box from three different Macs so far using SMB and no luck with any of them.


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The signon problem is the mac. If I were you, I would use Netinfo manager and turn the root user on. Then go to the terminal app, or even better iTerm and type su, then enter the root password.

then cd to /etc and pico nsmb.conf

[default]
minauth=none

crt O to write the file and your done, reboot just to make sure.

Maybe Eden or some one else could chime in on turning things off in the bios.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:09 am 
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Ralph wrote:
As far as poor NFS speeds, I think Glo8al posted he was getting 700ks on NFS, my opinion is you have an IRQ conflict somewhere. I've seen those speeds with SATA cards while testing NL2 due to IRQ conflicts, turn everything off, parallel port, gameport etc that is not needed.
As you can see, NFS had the fastest read speed, and AFS barely beat Samba in write speed 414.65s secs to 417 secs


Very interesting. I did have fast read speeds, write speeds were crap from every mac I tried (10.3.9 and 10.4.x).

AFAIK I have already turned off all serial, parallel, gameport, sound etc that I don't need.
I still get very very very slow write speeds.
SMB does have great write and read speeds
NFS has great read speeds, write speeds pfft
FTP great read and write speeds
HTTP has great read speeds.

AFP speeds are not far off the best speeds, but it can handle long file names, no seperate resource file "._filename" that is every where on SMB disks and a few other that can be found at http://www.macwindows.com.

If you can tell me something else to try, I will give it a go.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:48 pm 
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What/How are you testing the read/write speeds on the mac?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:10 pm 
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I'm copying a 7Gb or 2Gb or a 1Gb file over, then used my stop watch.
I tried a direct connect and via a switch no great difference.
other things I've tired
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Are they archive files? .img, .sit .zip etc, or are they like Photoshop files, or another application?

I need to know if your dealing with resource forks or flat files.


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7GB was a *.zip and *.sit
2Gb was a zip, tif and PSD
1Gb was a zip, tif, psd and pdf

I have tried with and with out the resource fork (I use a scritp to delete it before I copy it so I don't get a (._filename) file.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:43 am 
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Get Diskwriggler http://www.xdt.com.au/Development/Downloads/

There's a OSX precompiled binary, grab that.

Mount your naslite box, go to the terminal run Diskwriggler :

./diskWriggler -2K -t -n 300 -o /Volumes/your naslite box

And post the results, along with your network 10/100 1000 eth, a switch or hub and naslite box info ram,processor etc.

Then if you have a crossover cable, do the same tests with the client machine connected to the naslite box via the crossover cable.

Also check the logs on the naslite box for any errors.

Here's another thing to try, while talking to my buddy who's an SE at Apple with the XServe's. Apparently the XServe raid uses a flat file system as well, ie: ._File_Name files not HFS+

Customers were complaing about the XServe's not handling files with
resource forks correctly. You can use Disk Utility and create a new blank image of what ever size you please with Read/Write and save it to your naslite box. Mount your naslite box, and then double click the image file you just created, it should mount on your desktop now. That image file will use HFS+. Now use that image file as your naslite filesystem,there shouldn't be hardly any speed loss in reading/writing to that image file versus the drive filesystem.

Also, if your using gig ethernet, make sure your cables are correct and have all pairs wired to the cat 6 spec in the rj45.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable


If you were only having problems with files using resource forks, I'd point you to the above image solution, but since it's both, I think you have some network/hardware problem somewhere. Also make sure you use naslite for these tests, not a standard distro or other nas solution.


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