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 Post subject: New HD won't install
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:35 am 
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Hard to believe. I just took a working 160gb EIDE Western Digital Caviar drive out of a Windows XP PC, and installed it in NASLIte+ USB. BIOS boot sees it - this is a new MOBO, but drives cannot be disabled, the other 3 disks work fine. Try to format it (Slave is set ok), it comes back and says "Not A Disk" after re-boot. When formatting I see "DirveReady SeekComplete Error", after format I get the message, "Failed to format Disk-2, Disk-2 can only be formmatted isif installed as a fixed disk ... ".
Any ideas ... I mystified ... ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:26 pm 
Grumpa,

Well I must say that is weird, suggestions..
did the HD have any HD overlay software on it?
remove any partitions if they are present on that disk.
try to format the disk not quick format using another pc to see if there is a problem bad sectors etc.
disconnect all the other drives in the nas and put the Westen dig as a master then try to format. if so move the other drives around.
bad cable?

sorry that I cant be of more help other then the above suggestions.
good luck
eden


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:33 pm 
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also try not letting the bios autodect the drives since Naslite does not need the BIOS in this respect


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:03 pm 
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edeng & fat: Thanks for the quick replies. This is the second WD Caviar that doesn't like my NASLite. I am 2 hours into a full "wipe" of the HD ... I will try to format it Ext2 outside of NASLite ... I'll post what happens ... thanks again.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:32 pm 
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No joy for my NASLite. 3 hours of "wipe" failed ... 3 attempts to use Paragon to format in Ext2 failed ... 1 attempt to re-format in NTFS worked fine, and now it is living as an external drive. The bad news is that I now have 2 new WD Caviar 160mb hard drives that won't work in NASLite but work fine in Windows XP.
:-(


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:14 am 
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i had all sorts of grief with one of my drives.

what i did was download S.M.A.R.T Linux on floppy.

Power up fdisk and frag the thing.

Then it was detected.


However i did have another drive that wou;ld not work with one of my compaq boxes at all under Naslite. After messnig about i never did make it work and just used another box


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:12 pm 
Grumpa,

its not a Naslite problem then, as you cannot format the drive in paragon. please post the model of the two HD's you have adn i wil see what i can find out..

Eden


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:15 pm 
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Get this: on the 11th try ... using multiple attempts with Norton Partition Magic, OnTrack Disk Manager, Paragon Disk Manager, Norton Utilities, and fdisk, one of the 160gb WD drives formatted successfully to Ext2 as Disk-2 ... go figure? I must admit I am quite skitish about really trusting this disk, are there any tests I can run, or any checks I should be doing? I plan on pounding it with about 120gb of file transfers (back and forth) ... we'll see.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:19 pm 
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Edeng: Here is the server initialization results. The drive type is included - any weakspots? I noticed a "read failure" at the end.
Thanks.

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Disk-2 Hardware
WDC WD1600BB-00DWA0, ATA DISK drive
attached ide-disk driver.
host protected area => 1
312581808 sectors (160042 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, UDMA(100)
NOTE: Disk-2 is installed and available for use.



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Disk-2 S.M.A.R.T. Status
smartctl version 5.0-45 Copyright (C) 2002 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC WD1600BB-00DWA0
Serial Number: WD-WMAEK2313720
Firmware Version: 15.05R15
ATA Version is: 6
ATA Standard is: Unrecognized. Minor revision code: 0x00
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Off-line data collection status: (0x05) Offline data collection activity was
aborted by an interrupting command from host.
Self-test execution status: ( 246) Self-test routine in progress...
60% of test remaining.
Total time to complete off-line
data collection: (5061) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x79) SMART execute Offline immediate.
No Automatic timer ON/OFF support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 67) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 174 051 Pre-fail - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 152 145 021 Pre-fail - 2941
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 040 Old_age - 450
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 199 199 140 Pre-fail - 2
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 200 195 051 Pre-fail - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age - 1765
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 051 Pre-fail - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age - 437
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 102 253 000 Old_age - 48
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 198 198 000 Old_age - 2
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 200 198 000 Old_age - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0012 200 200 000 Old_age - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 253 000 Old_age - 5
200 Unknown_Attribute 0x0009 200 155 051 Pre-fail - 0

SMART Self-test log, version number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 197 0x00000003
# 2 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 197 0x00000003


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:37 pm 
Grumpa,

Well i have looked and cannot find anyone having trouble like yours with formatting the HD, it is puzzling me, I know this is a pain but can you not temp use the pc you are are stick in the WD as a master disconnect all other drives then remove the partition and leave it blank then run naslite and try to configure the hd, i have read your other posts and saw you was having this problem with another WDC HD.

have you MBR'ed the HD?

Tell me what MB is in the NAS. something is screwed up and i'll do my best to help out.


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 Post subject: Read Failure
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:41 pm 
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Edeng: Well I've MBR'd it three times now. I am still getting these messages:
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SMART Self-test log, version number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 674 0x1280003f
# 2 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 674 0x1280003f
# 3 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 10% 673 0x127d7055
# 4 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 197 0x00000003
# 5 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 197 0x00000003
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Do you have any idea what this is "saying"? I still not sure this drive won't end up back as an external Windows XP USB drive. "Read Failure" just doesn't sound nifty.
Thanks.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:13 pm 
Grumpa,

M8 I am stumped! I looked all over and cant find a reason why the disk wont work correctly? Tony is better at saying what those logs means, but it dont look good. its got to be hardware, but what hardware?

did you try formating on another pc, even running the nas os on anothe pc and trying to format or run the nas?

Eden


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:27 pm 
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Just a thought. When the Drive was in your Win XP computer, did you have it set to be a Dynamic drive? I have seen problems like this before when trying to format a drive, then realizing it was setup as a dynamic drive


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:36 pm 
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Grumpa:

It seems this WD1600 was originally sold to a system manufacturer (i.e. you did not purchase it as a standalone retail drive).

1] What system (Mfg & Model) was it installed in ? Or where did you buy it ?
2] What Motherboard are you using in on currently ? What NIC is installed (on-board or what PCI card ) ?
3] Check in BIOS and verify (if your BIOS has this ability) that the drive is correctly recognized (size and model WD1600), and (if shown) transfer mode (UDMA-5, PIO, etc etc).

Report back and we'll see if I can help more.

:) Georg


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:15 pm 
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georg: thanks for taking an interest in this problematic drive. First let me say it is now living as a Windows External USB drive. It was once a drive that came with an eMachines PC. I have tried to use it with 3 different MOBOs, old and brand new. The Bios properly recognizes it each time. Here is where things stand: I have run all WDC diagnostics (Quick and Detailed (ATP - all tests pass), I have low level formatted it - zeros written to entire dirve, I have run HDD Regenerator 1.51 on it for 13 hours, ATP, no bad sectors. It has been fdisk/formatted FAT32, NTFS, Ext2 and 3. I have copied 150gb of video data back and forth to the drive 4 times without error. *BUT* when I install it in NASLite I get:
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SMART Self-test log, version number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Extended off-line Completed 00% 804
# 2 Extended off-line Interrupted (host reset) 70% 803
# 3 Unknown test Completed 00% 802
# 4 Extended off-line Completed 00% 786
# 5 Unknown test Interrupted (host reset) 90% 785
# 6 Unknown test Completed 00% 785
# 7 Unknown test Completed: read failure 00% 783 0x127eb874
# 8 Short off-line Completed: read failure 90% 725 0x127d889b
# 9 Short off-line Completed: read failure 90% 723 0x127d889b
#10 Short off-line Completed: read failure 90% 722 0x127d8a9e
#11 Short off-line Completed: read failure 90% 721 0x127daa12
#12 Short off-line Completed: read failure 90% 721 0x127daa12
#13 Short off-line Completed: read failure 90% 721 0x127daa12
#14 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 699 0x1280003f
#15 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 679 0x1280003f
#16 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 674 0x1280003f
#17 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 674 0x1280003f
#18 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 10% 673 0x127d7055
#19 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 197 0x00000003
#20 Extended off-line Completed: read failure 90% 197 0x00000003
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Like I said it is a happy external USB drive. I don't know what the "read failure" actually means, but I am clever enough not to trust the drive.


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