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 Post subject: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:29 pm 
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I am seeing the following errors in the syslog. Will a restart force an fsck? Is there something else I can do to eliminate these errors?

# Apr 17 11:57:33 user.crit kernel: EXT3-fs error (device sd(8,1)): ext3_readdir: bad entry in directory #182566917: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=0, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0
# Apr 17 11:57:33 user.crit kernel: EXT3-fs error (device sd(8,1)): ext3_readdir: bad entry in directory #182566918: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=0, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0
# Apr 17 12:57:11 user.crit kernel: EXT3-fs error (device sd(8,1)): ext3_readdir: bad entry in directory #182566917: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=0, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0
# Apr 17 12:57:11 user.crit kernel: EXT3-fs error (device sd(8,1)): ext3_readdir: bad entry in directory #182566918: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=0, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0
# Apr 18 14:31:07 user.crit kernel: EXT3-fs error (device sd(8,1)): ext3_readdir: bad entry in directory #182566940: rec_len is smaller than minimal - offset=0, inode=0, rec_len=0, name_len=0


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:50 pm 
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rebooting may fix the problem and if not do a check and repair on that drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:57 pm 
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dimension wrote:
rebooting may fix the problem and if not do a check and repair on that drive.


I did a reboot and the array failed to mount. Shortly after that I started to get corrupted disk errors. I took the NAS offline and rebuilt the array, once done I booted up Knoppix 5.1 to run and fsck but I cannot find the mount point. I have done this in the past so I have no idea what the heck is going on.

I am just about through with this NASLite crap. I have had 6 disks fail, all were brand new and bought for this NAS. I lose one about every two months. I have an oversized true power power supply, fans, fans and more fans. I also run on a conditioned line complete with a battery backup system and I CANNOT depend on this damn thing.

Something is complete shit, I don't know if it is the LSI Raid card, or NASLite. I am using top of the line hardware and power. I have a Buffalo Terastation that sits right alongside this collosal piece of crap and it have never *ONCE* failed or lost a drive. Even though it is used about twice as much. I am sick of this crap, what good is NAS when it has a failure rate like this???


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:08 pm 
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What are the drives that you are using? Are they all from the same lot? Are they near line storage rated drives or just commodity run of the mill units?

You seem to be blaming NL for hardware based issues you are having. Likely, NL is not the problem. Since this is your second post here and you seem to not be interested in getting your problem resolved may advice is that you put the new drives in a windows box and setup a microsoft server. NL has been nothing but reliable for me for well over three and a half years with the only issue being a NIC failing. I have migrated the drives from box to box and never lost a byte of data in the process.

In the future if you're going to run an array my advice is that you read up on the white papers of companies like IBM, EMC, Network appliance, and others about arrays. They never load arrays with all drives from the same lot for just the reasons you seem to be dealing with.

NL is not a piece of shit, it is in fact one of the most simple and stable software packages for the purpose as about 90%+ of those using it would agree.

Mike


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:27 pm 
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Have you had a power failure?

Have you checked the integrity of the array using the LSI BIOS?

Are you going to stop being offensive?


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:13 pm 
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mikeiver1 wrote:
What are the drives that you are using? Are they all from the same lot? Are they near line storage rated drives or just commodity run of the mill units?

You seem to be blaming NL for hardware based issues you are having. Likely, NL is not the problem. Since this is your second post here and you seem to not be interested in getting your problem resolved may advice is that you put the new drives in a windows box and setup a microsoft server. NL has been nothing but reliable for me for well over three and a half years with the only issue being a NIC failing. I have migrated the drives from box to box and never lost a byte of data in the process.

In the future if you're going to run an array my advice is that you read up on the white papers of companies like IBM, EMC, Network appliance, and others about arrays. They never load arrays with all drives from the same lot for just the reasons you seem to be dealing with.

NL is not a piece of shit, it is in fact one of the most simple and stable software packages for the purpose as about 90%+ of those using it would agree.

Mike


I am using WD 500GB drives, (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products ... anguage=en). The initial drives were all from the same lots, over the course of a year of them being replaced by WD they now are not. These are server class drives.

I did not blame NASLite, I simply said the NAS is a complete piece of shit. That is a combination of hardware and software, something is not playing nice. I have spent a year trying to figure out what that problem is, spent multiple hours on the phone with LSI and other vendors. That I have not posted here more often indicates nothing. Maybe you can pull up some logs and look at the amount of time I have spent on the forums searching for answers.

I am very well versed in NAS devices and arrays, this is not my first rodeo. I am glad that you have had no issues, does not mean that no one else has. It also does not mean that I have done something wrong. If you have any experience you would understand that.

I will find another solution. I have made my best effort to get this to work. Either the LSI Raid card is crap, or there is some problem with the interaction of NASLite and the LSI. I know there are others that use this combination and the very reason I bought the LSI was based on comments on these forums. Unfortunately I have had nothing but headaches and problems.

Lastly, I want to reiterate, I did not say that NASLite was a piece of shit. I said *my NAS was*. It just happens to be running NASLite.


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:17 pm 
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NickC wrote:
Have you had a power failure?

Have you checked the integrity of the array using the LSI BIOS?

Are you going to stop being offensive?


Nope, the array is on a line conditioner/UPS. The UPS has never tripped from a power loss nor from a brown out. I check the integrity on a regular basis, is there anyway to do that outside of the LSI BIOS?

I have no idea how I was offensive. Is it somehow offensive that I am sick and tired of my NAS??? Didn't know anyone would take offense to someone being PO'ed at a piece of computer equipment. Live and learn I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:42 pm 
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Got it.

You need to understand that most that come here and complain about NL/ NAS are basically noobs and have no idea of what is going on. It sounds to me like you have done more than your due diligence on this one.

I have had MBs that just didn't want to play nice with NL, from what I can tell from the limited info about your hardware this may be part of your problem. Some times the server hardware gets a bit to exotic for the software and don't play nice.

Feel free to post more info about hardware and what you have tried so far.

My system is not on an UPS, just an APC surge protected rack mount power strip.

Mike


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:09 am 
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garage_logician wrote:
Something is complete shit, I don't know if it is the LSI Raid card, or NASLite. I am using top of the line hardware and power. I have a Buffalo Terastation that sits right alongside this collosal piece of crap and it have never *ONCE* failed or lost a drive. Even though it is used about twice as much. I am sick of this crap, what good is NAS when it has a failure rate like this???
This is where the impression came from. You used an either/or between your RAID card and NASLite, then went on to talk about top of the line hardware - did this mean that you had ruled out the hardware element of the either/or? Apparently not - but it was certainly not clear from what you had written.

As Mike has said - some motherboards just don't play nicely - I had issues with IRQs when using two RAID cards on the ASUS motherboard that I am using. These problems went on for a while until I read here to look for unused motherboard devices which had been assigned IRQs unnecessarily. Switching these off in the BIOS cured my problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Syslog errors
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:09 am 
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NickC wrote:
garage_logician wrote:
Something is complete shit, I don't know if it is the LSI Raid card, or NASLite. I am using top of the line hardware and power. I have a Buffalo Terastation that sits right alongside this collosal piece of crap and it have never *ONCE* failed or lost a drive. Even though it is used about twice as much. I am sick of this crap, what good is NAS when it has a failure rate like this???
This is where the impression came from. You used an either/or between your RAID card and NASLite, then went on to talk about top of the line hardware - did this mean that you had ruled out the hardware element of the either/or? Apparently not - but it was certainly not clear from what you had written.

As Mike has said - some motherboards just don't play nicely - I had issues with IRQs when using two RAID cards on the ASUS motherboard that I am using. These problems went on for a while until I read here to look for unused motherboard devices which had been assigned IRQs unnecessarily. Switching these off in the BIOS cured my problem.



The Motherboard is a Soyo Dragon, I will look at the BIOS and see what may be enabled. Thank you for a direction to at least take a look, I am at my wits end with this NAS.


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