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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:26 pm 
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An oldie ... 1996 NEC, no ACPI, but has APM. Regardless of how I set the Bios Power Management, the PC will not "shut off" - fully power down. I know it's an oldie, but any ideas? Thanks.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:26 am 
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APM is not supported. APM and ACPI are very different. NASLite-2 supports ACPI only, so full power-off will not occur unless ACPI is present.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:21 pm 
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can you expand on that please Tony - i have a couple of Asus motherboards - both are said to have ACPI - there is certainly a setting in bios to enable/disable it - but neither board will power down fully regardless of the setting

both will power up with wol - dont know if thats relevent?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:34 am 
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ACPI, in it's early days was not well defined and many implementations came with chipset specific drivers, etc. The NASLite kernel simply ignores ACPI on BIOS versions prior to 2000, so boards from the 90s will run as if no ACPI is present.

So, if the boards you are using are older than 2000, then ACPI support is simply ignored.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:14 pm 
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thanks Tony will check some dates - the 2 boards i have that give problems are P4 asus - would think they are newer than 2000

an old P3 asus which i would guess is earlier than 2000 works fine as does a very old Dell - so maybe its me?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:55 am 
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Tony wrote:
    ACPI, in it's early days was not well defined and many implementations came with chipset specific drivers, etc. The NASLite kernel simply ignores ACPI on BIOS versions prior to 2000, so boards from the 90s will run as if no ACPI is present.

    So, if the boards you are using are older than 2000, then ACPI support is simply ignored.
  

    What then is the significance of this in the System Message Log:

    ..... user.notice kernel: ACPI disabled because your bios is from 2000 and too old
    ..... user.notice kernel: You can enable it with acpi=force


    Can a user force ACPI? And if so, how?
      


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:28 pm 
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hmmmm - your question rang a bell with me and i found this

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2352&hilit=acpi%3Dforce

next to last post - i also have this problem on 2 boards - either of which i would like to use - both have bios dates later than 2000

anyway will be trying it later with crossed fingers


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:20 pm 
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brilliant - adding acpi=force works - i can now power off a board that i could not before

thanks to whoever came up with this


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:56 am 
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tony a wrote:
brilliant - adding acpi=force works - i can now power off a board that i could not before

thanks to whoever came up with this


there are many directives you can pass the kernel that way


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:59 pm 
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gives an error at bootup - cannot allocate some resource or other [or something similar]

reading on here it is known and reading on the linux boards says forget about it - it works - it does everything i want and the error seems nothing


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