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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:49 pm 
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Tell me this supports Nvidia/Intel/whatever RAID (so I can RAID-5 about 5TB) and I am ALL over this. Suck money from me now. I'm eager for the release.. mid August.. that's like.. now, right? :)


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:47 am 
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If all files need to be placed in the MEDIA folder if they are to be shared via uPnP or DAAP, can I create a soft link to files/folders outside the MEDIA folder?


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:19 am 
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I know in samba you can just drag and drop all the files to a new folder. It's smart too. 100's of files will only take like a sec. So it just changes the link don't move the files. That is if it's all on the same hard drive.

You said "soft link" I think they call it a symbolic link. I think it would work but you can't log in to NASLite to do that command a ln -S. I guess they have to think of a simple way to add it to the menus. But it should be good just to have all you media in the same folder like it should be. Branch off that misic, video..... things like that.

-Raymond Day


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:50 pm 
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This looks cool....can someone explain what M2 will do as a server over naslite+ I currently use the old + version to media stream all over the house via Xbox....was does the M2 offer on top of this?

thanks!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:27 pm 
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Over NASLite+ allot.

For starters it will include the feature set of NL2 which has support for hardware RAID cards and software scheduled backup to another drive. I believe that it will also be a unified boot meaning that you can build a CD, HDD/CF, Or USB boot from the image. It will upgrade to the 2.6.xx kernel allowing the utilization of multicore processors or MP setups. It also becomes the master browser for itunes (someone correct me if I am wrong here as I am not a Mac or Itunes user at all and not really clear on this part) allowing you to make changes that show on all machines logging into the NAS/media server. Support for more modern hardware should also be a result of this upgrade. If you are using NL+ this will be the upgrade to go for when they get around to releasing it.

Get off your asses and release it guys!!!

Mike


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:12 am 
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I'm not sure the 2.6 kernel will be part of M2. I think the first release will be with 2.4 as with naslite-2. Unless i'm reading the posts wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:48 pm 
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For some reason I recall Tony correcting me about that same thing and saying that M-2 will be a 2.6.xx kernel, I could be wrong since I am not in their loop and they play it close to the body.

Mike


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:23 am 
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Ralph wrote:
With the reworked unified boot, we can present more options with the current core, and a SMP kernel for multiprocessors will more than likely be an option.


I do however seem to recall that Tony has stated that M2 will not be based on the 2.6 kernel but I could be wrong..


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:14 am 
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M2 uses the existing 2 core so it will boot the 2.4 kernel. The kernel however is heavily modified to provide better compatibility with newer boards although the driver set will remain as is.


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:11 pm 
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Been playing with the apple remote app on my iPhone. Will this work with M2?


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:38 pm 
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Sorry but i was hoping for something more. Or maybe i don't understand it the way it is.
At the moment i have a six drive NASlite 2.06. The six people in my house (sometimes four at a time and lot's of HD content) stream movies without any problem, we use mostly Mac's. Everybody is able to use the centralised iTunes library (a really huge one) as if it were on the internal drive. The only thing here witch is not perfect is that only one at a time can use iTunes. The way M2 seams to be implanted, is like a shared library, so no way to import through iTunes. It looks as if this is the same solution as you can find on many small single drive home NAS solutions. So for me (and my main reason for using a big NAS is media streaming) this is not very use full. Far more help full would have been 1-Spotlight indexing 2-Time machine compatibility 3-Data flow interruption bug (again sorry) 4-A real iTunes server so that anybody can use the NAS as a library instead of a shared library (all be able to add, rate and edit songs at the same time).


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:19 pm 
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Far more help full would have been 1-Spotlight indexing 2-Time machine compatibility 3-Data flow interruption bug (again sorry) 4-A real iTunes server so that anybody can use the NAS as a library instead of a shared library (all be able to add, rate and edit songs at the same time).


I'm walking out the door here, so I'll just quickly comment on a few things in the above.

First a little Googling and you may find your answer to the Spotlight and Time Machine (TM info may be here as well) concerns, which happen to work perfectly with NASLite. Data Flow bug? You may want to Google on this and search here as well about Apple's poor buffering and slow copying using the finder, this has been discussed many many times, try copying from the command line and see the difference. Full iTunes shared library? It would be nice if Apple allowed this with the iTunes software, but they don't and won't, I'm sure there's some other clients that support DAAPD that might.


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:05 pm 
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flinstone wrote:
Sorry but i was hoping for something more. Or maybe i don't understand it the way it is.
At the moment i have a six drive NASlite 2.06. The six people in my house (sometimes four at a time and lot's of HD content) stream movies without any problem, we use mostly Mac's. Everybody is able to use the centralised iTunes library (a really huge one) as if it were on the internal drive. The only thing here witch is not perfect is that only one at a time can use iTunes. The way M2 seams to be implanted, is like a shared library, so no way to import through iTunes. It looks as if this is the same solution as you can find on many small single drive home NAS solutions. So for me (and my main reason for using a big NAS is media streaming) this is not very use full. Far more help full would have been 1-Spotlight indexing 2-Time machine compatibility 3-Data flow interruption bug (again sorry) 4-A real iTunes server so that anybody can use the NAS as a library instead of a shared library (all be able to add, rate and edit songs at the same time).


NASLite-M2 will provide DAAP and UPnP services in addition to the existing NASLite-2 protocols. There is no reason why multiple DAAP clients such as iTunes will not be able to connect and use the stored content simultaneously. Along the same lines, there is no reason why multiple UPnP clients would have a problem streaming content from NASLite-M2 simultaneously. As Ralph pointed out, Time Machine works just fine with NASLite-2 and will in the same way work fine with NASLite-M2. So, what exactly is it that you expect from NASLite-M2?


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:36 pm 
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Ralph wrote:
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Far more help full would have been 1-Spotlight indexing 2-Time machine compatibility 3-Data flow interruption bug (again sorry) 4-A real iTunes server so that anybody can use the NAS as a library instead of a shared library (all be able to add, rate and edit songs at the same time).


... It would be nice if Apple allowed this with the iTunes software, but they don't and won't, I'm sure there's some other clients that support DAAPD that might.


to put a finer point on this.... when apple first rolled out iTunes library sharing, it was phenomenal. i was in on-campus housing, on a subnet with hundreds of iTunes users and we could drag and drop music from shared libraries. who needed hotline? but then apple had to make concessions to get the iTunes music store off the ground (with actual major label content) and the rest is history.

i think the iTunes single user R/W access (multiple user RO) is purely a function of the music industry bitching at apple, and apple appeasing them (just like fairplay DRM)


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 Post subject: Re: Welcome to M2
PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:50 am 
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Hi Ralf,
-I was wondering. If the data flow problem is solely the problem of Apple's poorly buffering and other things "not good" in Apple's OS. Why don't I have this problem when I copy data directly from a Mac to another Mac?
-I did Google on the time machine drive. There was an option where you could input a view commands in the terminal an "Boom" it should work. After this Time machine sees the drives but refuses to make a backup. (getting the drive out the NASlite box to start a backup internal and than swap it back isn't an option in my house cause of various reasons).
-On spotlight indexing I did not find anything.

If you can point me in the direction for a good working solution for those things that would be very helpful.

About iTunes: Yes I guess you are right. Apple makes it rather impossible to do anything like real sharing with the library. Maybe this is the closest thing to it.

Thanks in advance.


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